Tja da habe ich leider den Platz nicht dazu
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5cl pls 
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Ich grundsätzlich auch nicht, aber die Garage ist gerade leer und die Flaschen sind komplett verschweißt
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Vergesst alles, was ihr über die optimalen Abfüll-Behälter wie Flaschen zu wissen glaubt. Ich bin soeben in einer Facebook Gruppe über diese kreative Versandmöglichkeit gestolpert:
Es handelt sich um Muttermilchbeutel, die gibt’s schon für 0,15€/Stk, sind auslaufgesichert, doppelt verschlossen und selbstverständlich lebensmittelecht. Kann easy im B5 Umschlag versendet werden und die Lagerung ist sicher auch platzsparender als bei Glasflaschen.
Ich hab ja ein paar Splits anstehen - ich probiere das mal aus und lasse euch am Feedback der Community teilhaben 
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Saw a comparable test on this. I guess most likely with Secret Rum Bar? It is okay for short storage but if you store rum too long, it starts to taste like plastic big time.
I still have a vast amount of samples to work my way through 
so this is not for me
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Wow … Aber das wirkt sehr disruptiv auf meine Samplesammlung. Bin gespannt
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Ich wäre da vorsichtig bei hohem Alkohol Gehalt. Dafür sind die bestimmt nicht ausgelegt 
. Sonst könnten wir auch einfach auf Plastik Sample Flaschen umsteigen. Sind auch deutlich billiger. Und ich müsste den Rum zu Hause umfüllen. Das wird bestimmt schlabbern 
Weiß nicht … aber kreativ ist es auf jeden Fall 
sehe son 1975 Guyana in einem Muttermilch Beutel
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ChatGPT sagt zu Rum in Fassstärke im Muttermilchbeutel … ich wäre bei Rum und Plastik auch sehr skeptisch, zumindest wenn wir über längere Stehdauer sprechen. Kurzfristig wird das schon ok sein.
ChatGPT
Ah, jetzt wird’s spannend – du willst also hochprozentigen Rum (70 %) in einem Muttermilchbeutel aufbewahren und fragst dich, ob sich der Geschmack oder Inhalt durch den Beutel verändert?
Die kurze Antwort:
Nein, das solltest du besser nicht tun, wenn du den originalen Geschmack erhalten willst. Hier ist warum:
Der Hintergrund:
- Material der Muttermilchbeutel:
- Die meisten bestehen aus Polyethylen (PE) oder Polypropylen (PP).
- Diese Kunststoffe sind nicht dafür gedacht, hochprozentigen Alkohol zu lagern.
- Ethanol (besonders in 70 %-Konzentration) kann über Zeit Weichmacher lösen, das Material angreifen oder chemisch mit dem Plastik reagieren, was zu Geschmacksveränderung oder sogar chemischen Rückständen führen kann.
- Geschmack und Aroma:
- Hochprozentiger Alkohol ist sehr reaktiv und kann Aromen aus dem Beutelmaterial herauslösen oder selbst flüchtige Bestandteile verlieren (je nach Dichtigkeit des Beutels).
- Das kann dazu führen, dass der Rum „plastikartig“ schmeckt oder an Qualität verliert.
- Dichtigkeit & Lagerung:
- Muttermilchbeutel sind meist für den kurzzeitigen Gebrauch bei tiefen Temperaturen gemacht (z. B. Einfrieren).
- Hochprozentiger Rum braucht langfristig dichte, alkoholfeste Behälter – idealerweise Glas.
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So that was my samples to be sent to a friend.
I always send this way with the warning to decant into their own sample bottles on arrival as it’s only designed for effective sending, not effective storing due to the effect of the plastic on the rum (as noted from the secret rum bar guy in his test).
Really cheap and space saving to send locally but always move from the milk bag to sample bottle once arrived a couple days later.
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Thanks for the clarification, but to be honest I don’t see the benefit. Shipping cost should be the same (2/5/10 cl sample bottles can be sent as Maxibrief in Germany as well for example) and as you say the buyer has to get his own sample bottles. So you buy a plastic bag and the buyer a sample bottle instead of just shipping the sample bottle in the first place 
Aren’t our oceans filled enough with plastic already? The only use case where this might work is when you immediately consume received samples and don’t need an additional sample bottle. However I doubt these bags are reusable like sample bottles.
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Certainly each to their own, rules will be different for posting for everyone and here it’s based on weight and size of the parcel. Plus it’s to friends who all have their own bottles. Plastic wise, well it’s one of those situations where 3 of the group all had small children at the time, it’s how it all came about as we had hundreds of pouches each at home. So made sense to use them up, keep our own sample bottles at home and keep cost of posting down. This way they can be put through a letterbox (much cheaper here) than requiring a parcel to be delivered.
Think the take home message for me is if anyone does use it or try it, make sure the good stuff is out the bag and into a secure bottle on arrival but ultimately do what works best for yourself sending and those you are sending too and enjoy the shares 
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Here it is: https://www.secretrumbar.com/post/transporting-and-storing-rum-2-experiments
The experiment
On 9th December 2023 I chose two excellent, and very different, rums. I decanted 30ml of each into traditional sample bottles, and another 30ml into breast milk bags. These were stashed away in a cool dark cupboard, alongside the original bottles, awaiting a review after an extended period.
For no good reason, the review day turned out to be 25th September 2024. What would 291 days in a milk bag, and in a sample bottle, do when compared to what was left (un-gassed, un-filmed) in the bottle.
Tasting and conclusion …
Vinha Alta Balancal
Sample Bottle - Bright, rich, grassy, zesty. Everything you want from a great Agricole. Taste is clean with plenty of zip. Fresh, citrus, saline with a touch of brine. Lovely stuff.
Milk Bag - Smelt a touch flatter, heavier and earthier than the other two. But not bad and not off-putting. Taste however was immediately wrong. The first sign was a gunky mouthfeel, like something bad was coating your mouth. This led onto a burnt plastic taste that kept getting worse. Acrid and revolting. One sip was enough - down the sink with you.
Original Bottle - 99% the same as the sample bottle. If anything the full bottle dram was a smidge brighter and more complex than the sample bottle dram, next to nothing in it though (as you would hope!)
Foursquare Nobiliary
Sample Bottle - It’s been too long. Love this beast. Rich roasted spice, vanilla caramel and coconut on the nose. Perfect oak integration, a massive yet rounded taste. Spicy. Dark berry chocolate. Outstanding
Milk Bag - Smells great. Just how it should and almost identical to the sample. Taste is vile. As with the unaged rum, this experience started with a nasty sticky texture and led into a heavy menthol and acrid mess. Not as pronounced a difference as with the unaged sample, but still very wrong and a bad taste. Again I binned the rest of the glass - slightly concerned I might be poisoning myself!
Original Bottle - Yum yum. One of the top few Foursquare ECS. What a waste using this magnificent rum for the experiment! Again 99% the same as the sample bottle - in this case the sample had the edge, but I have just tasted the plastic muck so maybe that’s why.
Conclusion - Boobie bags… great for shipping, big mistake for storing!
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